From superaorta at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 06:03:27 2022 From: superaorta at gmail.com (superaorta@gmail.com) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Strange config / sending problem In-Reply-To: <3644729.MHq7AAxBmi@lunesta> References: <1832716.tdWV9SEqCh@lunesta> <80948f0e-3709-3732-e625-6105d27e83d3@yandex.com> <3644729.MHq7AAxBmi@lunesta> Message-ID: <4468597.cEBGB3zze1@lunesta> Odd problem today: I made one trivial change to my config by selecting: [X] Include Attachments in Reply Next thing I know I get this: [Mail not sent: Sender verify failed] So I changed it back but same problem. Needless to say it worked before. Explanation: It appears something changed allow-changing-from to no-allow-changing-from This is a hidden feature in pine and consequently I couldn't have accidentality changed when making changes to the config file so it looks like something went wrong! From scowles at ckhb.org Sat Dec 10 15:23:40 2022 From: scowles at ckhb.org (scowles@ckhb.org) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] account password persistence Message-ID: <19ee969-cfd7-7daf-a33-fa1ba6b1f2fc@ckhb.org> i build alpine from source and specify absolute path for the passfile. when quitting the alpine instance, i am not prompted for a master password to keep any account credentials persistent. this persistence is functional on other hosts in my network; why not this host? build sequence is identical; source is identical; ~/.pinerc is identical. something is clearly different, but i have not been able to find the difference. would anyone have knowledge about what i need to fix? thanks. platform: ubuntu 22.04.1, current patches as of 2022-12-10 15:16:15 PST alpine source: current as of 2022-12-10 15:16:15 PST -- From scowles at ckhb.org Sat Dec 10 16:04:56 2022 From: scowles at ckhb.org (scowles@ckhb.org) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] account password persistence In-Reply-To: <19ee969-cfd7-7daf-a33-fa1ba6b1f2fc@ckhb.org> References: <19ee969-cfd7-7daf-a33-fa1ba6b1f2fc@ckhb.org> Message-ID: <208d15e4-4ede-991c-9e37-70d850b51590@ckhb.org> sorry for the noise. my current shell session time zone (TZ) differed from the system timezone. as soon as i corrected TZ in the shell config files, started a new shell session, and then started a new instance of alpine, i was prompted for the passfile master password and all is now well. account credentials on this new host are now persistent. if the timezone correction is a false correlation with the behaviour change, then what caused the behaviour change? could this problem be a possible bug, or perhaps a case of a missing and helpful error message? -- On Sat, 10 Dec 2022, scowles@ckhb.org wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 15:23:40 > From: scowles@ckhb.org > To: alpine-info@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Alpine-info] account password persistence > > > i build alpine from source and specify absolute path for the passfile. > when quitting the alpine instance, i am not prompted for a master password to > keep any account credentials persistent. > > this persistence is functional on other hosts in my network; why not this > host? > > build sequence is identical; source is identical; ~/.pinerc is identical. > something is clearly different, but i have not been able to find the > difference. > would anyone have knowledge about what i need to fix? > > thanks. > > platform: ubuntu 22.04.1, current patches as of 2022-12-10 15:16:15 PST > alpine source: current as of 2022-12-10 15:16:15 PST > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From hansstam at kpnplanet.nl Wed Dec 21 23:58:12 2022 From: hansstam at kpnplanet.nl (Hans Stam) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] configuration Alpine in Windows 11 Message-ID: <243cb9ed-f939-2d7e-b060-80f5eb314ea4@kpnplanet.nl> Hi all... Long ago I worked with Alpine in Windows and now I have downloaded the last version. Unfortunately I have lost a note here how to configure Alpine in Windows.. And especially the configuration for ID, pop and Inbox settings.. Any help is welcome., Best Regards Hans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin.listas at telefonica.net Sat Dec 24 11:55:51 2022 From: robin.listas at telefonica.net (Carlos E. R.) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] [OT] To read IMAP from O365 you need to be a Microsoft Partner and have an Azure account and... Message-ID: <53283fe8-d034-e24d-d553-b8875e9220f3@telefonica.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just read this, and thought it might be of interest. The piece is in Spanish, so I use DeepL to translate the summary: +++???????????????????????? Well, worse than I thought. To read IMAP from O365 you need to be a Microsoft Partner and have an Azure account and activate MFA in your Azure AD user. And having MFA in AD is Premium: 5,10 ? / month. ThePunisherr by ThePunisherr at threadreaderapp.com sent: 21/12 21:42 I mean Microsoft charges just for reading mail from their servers. So what's 5.10 euros a month? I pay twice as much for Disney+. It's not about money, it's about Microsoft charging you to visit their farmhouse. And if you want to make an email client that reads O365 you have to pay.... Microsoft! That's killing the Internet and its philosophy. Depressing.?? It's frustrating when the problems aren't technical, but obscure schemes of monopolistic multinationals that trick you into subscribing to services you don't really want or need. | tags: microsoft , imap , office 365 , azure , pay-per-month , pay per month ????????????????????????++- The summary links to this tuiter thread, expanded: You can use Google Translate to translate it. If I translate using DeepL, the figures and format are lost. And the summary site has a some comments, also in Spanish. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY6dZSBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV4xMAn0K+2o8BIdi5+2TaXHYO yh8XjcB6AJ9DGRC0Z/DPBXQXukBVFHLTkyTkbQ== =2yuN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From klewellen at shellworld.net Thu Dec 29 17:02:57 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] imap setup in alpine 2.1? Message-ID: Hi folks, Our access to alpine is via the workspaces provided by dreamhost. Those workspaces are using v2.1. or at least that is what they shared. I must set up an imap configuration, according to dreamhost That means providing as a hostname imap.dreamhost.com The username and password associated with the email in question, and that is all..at least to start. Since dreamhost really does not understand how alpine works, I am wondering under which setting this information should be placed? I searched for the word imap in the configuration area of settings, but while I found some items, they did not seem to match my needs. I have no direct access to the alpine configuration files themselves, only what is managed via settings configuration. Direction please? rather new at this. Thanks, Karen From jason-alpine-info at shalott.net Thu Dec 29 20:41:06 2022 From: jason-alpine-info at shalott.net (jason-alpine-info@shalott.net) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] imap setup in alpine 2.1? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I must set up an imap configuration, according to dreamhost > That means providing as a hostname imap.dreamhost.com > The username and password associated with the email in question, and that > is all..at least to start. > Since dreamhost really does not understand how alpine works, I am wondering > under which setting this information should be placed? This will be set with the first few configuration items under the setup screen. For simply reading email, the most important setting is "Inbox Path"; if you scroll to this setting and hit you'll get asked for the name of the "Inbox server" -- this is where you put imap.dreamhost.com. Note, however, that you should specify that Alpine connect to it securely, with SSL -- to do that, append "/ssl" to the hostname, so "imap.dreamhost.com/ssl". You'll then be asked for the name of the inbox folder -- generally, accept the default of "INBOX". At this point, if you exit and save changes, you should be able to go to the inbox, get prompted for your username and password, and then start reading your mail. In order to send email, you'll probably also need to set the "SMTP Server"; this should probably be "smtp.dreamhost.com". You'll probably also want to set "Default Fcc" (i.e., your "Sent Messages") folder, "Postponed Folder" (i.e., "Drafts"), and likely some of the other settings in that menu. Note that you don't have to run Alpine on the Dreamhost workspace host; you can also run Alpine on your local (Windows/Mac/Linux/etc) desktop; the settings will all be the same either way. Good luck. -Jason From klewellen at shellworld.net Thu Dec 29 20:58:08 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] imap setup in alpine 2.1? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi there, Thanks for these details. My only comment again with appreciation is regarding your final point. I experience sight loss, and there is no Alpine client for my main computer operating system..which is none of those listed. so, yes we run alpine from the dreamhost workspace. with some greater productivity thanks to some of what you provide below. Thanks, Karen On Thu, 29 Dec 2022, jason-alpine-info@shalott.net wrote: > >> I must set up an imap configuration, according to dreamhost >> That means providing as a hostname imap.dreamhost.com >> The username and password associated with the email in question, and >> that is all..at least to start. >> Since dreamhost really does not understand how alpine works, I am >> wondering under which setting this information should be placed? > > This will be set with the first few configuration items under the setup > screen. > > For simply reading email, the most important setting is "Inbox Path"; if you > scroll to this setting and hit you'll get asked for the name of the > "Inbox server" -- this is where you put imap.dreamhost.com. Note, however, > that you should specify that Alpine connect to it securely, with SSL -- to do > that, append "/ssl" to the hostname, so "imap.dreamhost.com/ssl". You'll > then be asked for the name of the inbox folder -- generally, accept the > default of "INBOX". At this point, if you exit and save changes, you should > be able to go to the inbox, get prompted for your username and password, and > then start reading your mail. > > In order to send email, you'll probably also need to set the "SMTP Server"; > this should probably be "smtp.dreamhost.com". > > You'll probably also want to set "Default Fcc" (i.e., your "Sent Messages") > folder, "Postponed Folder" (i.e., "Drafts"), and likely some of the other > settings in that menu. > > Note that you don't have to run Alpine on the Dreamhost workspace host; you > can also run Alpine on your local (Windows/Mac/Linux/etc) desktop; the > settings will all be the same either way. > > Good luck. > > > -Jason > > From danm at prime.gushi.org Thu Dec 29 21:24:58 2022 From: danm at prime.gushi.org (Dan Mahoney) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] imap setup in alpine 2.1? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0532DE3C-C394-4997-BA41-60CE903FE336@prime.gushi.org> > On Dec 29, 2022, at 20:58, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi there, > Thanks for these details. > My only comment again with appreciation is regarding your final point. > I experience sight loss, and there is no Alpine client for my main computer operating system..which is none of those listed. Now I'm curious. Which OS? > so, yes we run alpine from the dreamhost workspace. > with some greater productivity thanks to some of what you provide below. > Thanks, > Karen From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Dec 30 08:04:25 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] imap setup in alpine 2.1? In-Reply-To: <0532DE3C-C394-4997-BA41-60CE903FE336@prime.gushi.org> References: <0532DE3C-C394-4997-BA41-60CE903FE336@prime.gushi.org> Message-ID: DOS. Works best with my adaptive technology. Although there are editions still under development, djppp Freedos for example, none of them have alpine clients. On Thu, 29 Dec 2022, Dan Mahoney wrote: > > >> On Dec 29, 2022, at 20:58, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> Thanks for these details. >> My only comment again with appreciation is regarding your final point. >> I experience sight loss, and there is no Alpine client for my main computer operating system..which is none of those listed. > > Now I'm curious. Which OS? > >> so, yes we run alpine from the dreamhost workspace. >> with some greater productivity thanks to some of what you provide below. >> Thanks, >> Karen > From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Dec 30 08:41:14 2022 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] rhs timeout issue? Message-ID: Hi folks, One issue being encountered with the inbox of our staff member while using alpine is an error referencing rhs. dreamhost states that alpine has a setting where it first checks for this type of inbox before the imap one. Or at least that it tries to communicate with the imap server by using rhs first. If this is true, where in the settings can I prevent alpine from taking this step? fills the screen with odd characters, which cannot be paused from my adaptive technology standpoint. Thanks, Karen