[Alpine-info] sending mails with alpine

[Carlos E. R.]

On 2022-10-12 10:55, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> wrong: I have no such problem with thunderbird


Yes, you have. I can see it in your headers.

As evidenced here:

X-TnetIn-SpamCheck: no es spam, 3, clean DKIM_NONE SPF_SOFTFAIL
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .**************


The problem is explained in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail

  cer at Telcontar:~> nslookup -type=txt gmail.com
Server:		127.0.0.1
Address:	127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
gmail.com	text = 
"globalsign-smime-dv=CDYX+XFHUw2wml6/Gb8+59BsH31KzUr6c1l2BPvqKX8="
gmail.com	text = "v=spf1 redirect=_spf.google.com"

Authoritative answers can be found from:

cer at Telcontar:~> nslookup -type=txt _spf.google.com
Server:		127.0.0.1
Address:	127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
_spf.google.com	text = "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com 
include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"

Authoritative answers can be found from:

cer at Telcontar:~>



So, "~ALL".

ALL  Matches always; used for a default result like -all for all IPs not 
matched by prior mechanisms.

~ (tilde) for SOFTFAIL, a debugging aid between NEUTRAL and FAIL. 
Typically, messages that return a SOFTFAIL are accepted but tagged.


We are lucky that they are not in enforce mode.





> BTW: how to use "gmail own servers" ?


You are using free.fr to send this email (smarthost configuration, 
probably). You have to use gmail.com instead.

-- 
Cheers / Saludos,

		Carlos E. R.
		(from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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