From Ferdinand.Goldmann at jku.at  Thu Mar  9 05:27:33 2023
From: Ferdinand.Goldmann at jku.at (Ferdinand Goldmann)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] SIGABRT when answering to a certain mail
Message-ID: <2034282c-4c08-59bf-d0b9-e9343b5b0ac3@jku.at>

Hi,

alpine just crashed on me (version 2.26, latest git clone from the repo) when
trying to reply to a mail in my mailbox.

I suppose you'd need more info, but for a start here's the output from the coredump:

(gdb) where
#0  __pthread_kill_implementation (threadid=<optimized out>, signo=signo@entry=6, no_tid=no_tid@entry=0)
     at pthread_kill.c:44
#1  0x00007fea50bc8953 in __pthread_kill_internal (signo=6, threadid=<optimized out>) at pthread_kill.c:78
#2  0x00007fea50b79ea8 in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6) at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:26
#3  0x00007fea50b6353d in __GI_abort () at abort.c:79
#4  0x00005620ef81ac94 in coredump () at coredump.c:25
#5  0x00005620ef842637 in alpine_panic (message=message@entry=0x7ffc898ccbb0 "Received abort signal(sig=11)")
     at alpine.c:3517
#6  0x00005620ef8f1cd1 in auger_in_signal (sig=11) at signal.c:187
#7  <signal handler called>
#8  __strcmp_avx2 () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/strcmp-avx2.S:287
#9  0x00005620ef8e65f8 in outgoing2strings (header=header@entry=0x7ffc898cda20, bod=<optimized out>,
     text=<optimized out>, pico_a=0x7ffc898cdab0, from_bounce=from_bounce@entry=0) at send.c:5633
#10 0x00005620ef8e9325 in pine_send (outgoing=<optimized out>, body=body@entry=0x7ffc898d1c08,
     editor_title=<optimized out>, role=<optimized out>, role@entry=0x5620f2082d70, fcc_arg=<optimized out>,
     fcc_arg@entry=0x5620f2109c50 "{aknsrv.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at/user=k000181/tls1_3}INBOX.sent-mail",
     reply=reply@entry=0x7ffc898d1c80, redraft_pos=<optimized out>, lcc_arg=<optimized out>, custom=<optimized out>,
     flags=<optimized out>) at send.c:3000
#11 0x00005620ef8c49df in reply (pine_state=pine_state@entry=0x5620f19bf2a0, role_arg=role_arg@entry=0x0) at reply.c:696
#12 0x00005620ef89b54d in cmd_reply (role=0x0, aopt=0, msgmap=0x5620f1b62410, state=0x5620f19bf2a0) at mailcmd.c:2387
#13 process_cmd (state=0x5620f19bf2a0, stream=0x5620f1a2dc20, msgmap=<optimized out>, command=command@entry=705,
     in_index=in_index@entry=View, force_mailchk=force_mailchk@entry=0x7ffc898d31a4) at mailcmd.c:756
#14 0x00005620ef8b960a in scrolltool (sparms=sparms@entry=0x7ffc898d32c0) at mailview.c:3717
#15 0x00005620ef8bac29 in mail_view_screen (ps=0x5620f19bf2a0) at mailview.c:445
#16 0x00005620ef81cc5b in main (argc=<optimized out>, argv=<optimized out>) at alpine.c:1447

Cheers,
Ferdinand
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From alpine.chappa at yandex.com  Thu Mar  9 07:34:05 2023
From: alpine.chappa at yandex.com (Eduardo Chappa)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] SIGABRT when answering to a certain mail
In-Reply-To: <2034282c-4c08-59bf-d0b9-e9343b5b0ac3@jku.at>
References: <2034282c-4c08-59bf-d0b9-e9343b5b0ac3@jku.at>
Message-ID: <d1b2e3fc-e3e1-767d-5b2c-1ccc7a93306e@yandex.com>

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> alpine just crashed on me (version 2.26, latest git clone from the repo) 
> when trying to reply to a mail in my mailbox.

Dear Ferdinand,

   is there any chance that I can see the message that made Alpine crashed? 
I do not need the text of the message, but if you know how to edit the 
attachments in the message and delete them, so I can add my own, that 
would help in order to debug this problem. The original message is best, 
but if you cannot, please help me the best you can.

   Thank you.

-- 
Eduardo

From robin.listas at telefonica.net  Thu Mar 16 04:20:16 2023
From: robin.listas at telefonica.net (Carlos E. R.)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] I noticed a new problem when posting non ascii.
Message-ID: <8f7c6f4c-ca6a-4613-3aae-3f1a39abdf18@telefonica.net>

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Hash: SHA1

Content-ID: <7b9c60fa-2aa1-db7f-b490-176148f90ee1@Telcontar.valinor>


Hi,

it seems that when I post a word like "Espa?ol", it is displayed correctly 
in Alpine, but not when I see it when it comes back on the openSUSE mail 
list, on Thunderbird.

I don't know yet if it happens on this mail list, so let's wait till I see 
my own post here and I comment back.

On openSUSE mail list, the email comes back as (as seen in Thunderbird 
"ctrl-u", display source):

+++??????????????????????
User-Agent: Alpine 2.26 (LSU 649 2022-06-02)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6
...

   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

- --8323328-1366436988-1678962884=:19264
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
??????????????????????++-

Hum, same thing in the sent folder, prior to passing through all the 
servers. So, should happen the same in this mail list.


- -- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
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From alpine at eckner.net  Fri Mar 17 05:00:08 2023
From: alpine at eckner.net (Erich Eckner)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info]  reply from "To:" Address iff recognized
Message-ID: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>

Hi,

I use multiple addresses under my domain for different purposes (as one 
might guess, when looking at the one, that I'm writing this email from). 
When hastily replying to an email, I sometimes forget to set the correct 
"From:" address and alpine picks my default address instead.

Is there an option to make the reply default from the original To/Cc 
address, which is recognized as my own? If no such address is recognized, 
I'm fine with the current behaviour.

Example:

1: I reply to a mail sent to addresses A, B, C. A is one of my own and 
recognized by alpine as such (i.e. the mail is marked with a "+" in the 
list view). When replying, I would now have address A set as the "From:" 
address of the mail.

2: I reply to a mail sent to addresses B and C only, none of which is 
recognized as my own. Alpine should just pick my default address, then.

In case, multiple addresses are recognized, I don't actually care too 
much, whether alpine picks any of them or whether it picks my default 
address.

regards,
Erich

From jason-alpine-info at shalott.net  Fri Mar 17 06:13:15 2023
From: jason-alpine-info at shalott.net (jason-alpine-info@shalott.net)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] reply from "To:" Address iff recognized
In-Reply-To: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>
References: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>


> Is there an option to make the reply default from the original To/Cc 
> address, which is recognized as my own?

Yes.  Under Setup -> Config settings, see option:

 	* Copy To Address to From if it is Us

You'll also need to define which addresses should be recognized as "Us" by 
setting:

 	* Alternate Addresses

This takes a list of regexes, so you can do stuff like,

 	myname\+.*@gmail.com, .*@mydomain


  -Jason


From alpine at eckner.net  Fri Mar 17 07:09:46 2023
From: alpine at eckner.net (Erich Eckner)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] reply from "To:" Address iff recognized
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>
References: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>
Message-ID: <667ec360-9661-44ba-081a-775c70f4bce6@eckner.net>


On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, jason-alpine-info@shalott.net wrote:

>
>> Is there an option to make the reply default from the original To/Cc 
>> address, which is recognized as my own?
>
> Yes.  Under Setup -> Config settings, see option:
>
> 	* Copy To Address to From if it is Us

Damn, that was easy. Thanks!

>
> You'll also need to define which addresses should be recognized as "Us" by 
> setting:
>
> 	* Alternate Addresses
>
> This takes a list of regexes, so you can do stuff like,
>
> 	myname\+.*@gmail.com, .*@mydomain

Yeah, thanks - I had this configured already :-)

>
>
> -Jason

cheers,
Erich

From andrew at aitchison.me.uk  Fri Mar 17 09:14:49 2023
From: andrew at aitchison.me.uk (Andrew C Aitchison)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] reply from "To:" Address iff recognized
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>
References: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>
Message-ID: <b323d126-3880-f894-baeb-211bd33bbe29@aitchison.me.uk>


On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, jason-alpine-info@shalott.net wrote:

>> Is there an option to make the reply default from the original To/Cc 
>> address, which is recognized as my own?
>
> Yes.  Under Setup -> Config settings, see option:
>
> 	* Copy To Address to From if it is Us
>
> You'll also need to define which addresses should be recognized as "Us" by 
> setting:
>
> 	* Alternate Addresses
>
> This takes a list of regexes, so you can do stuff like,
>
> 	myname\+.*@gmail.com, .*@mydomain

This has been on my wishlist for some time, but I didn't even know that it 
was something I could ask for, so thanks to Jason for answering, Eric for 
asking and (presumably) Eduardo for implementing the feature in the first 
place.

I note that it isn't working for me for messages from mailing lists,
but I will need to see whether it is related to how I use fetchmail
as part of my incoming mail flow.

Thanks again.

-- 
Andrew C. Aitchison                      Kendal, UK
                    andrew@aitchison.me.uk

From robin.listas at telefonica.net  Fri Mar 17 14:52:45 2023
From: robin.listas at telefonica.net (Carlos E. R.)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] I noticed a new problem when posting non ascii.
In-Reply-To: <8f7c6f4c-ca6a-4613-3aae-3f1a39abdf18@telefonica.net>
References: <8f7c6f4c-ca6a-4613-3aae-3f1a39abdf18@telefonica.net>
Message-ID: <2bc57353-fb5d-6794-bc30-c1853519dfb2@telefonica.net>

On 2023-03-16 12:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it seems that when I post a word like "Espa?ol", it is displayed 
> correctly in Alpine, but not when I see it when it comes back on the 
> openSUSE mail list, on Thunderbird.
> 
> I don't know yet if it happens on this mail list, so let's wait till I 
> see my own post here and I comment back.
> 
> On openSUSE mail list, the email comes back as (as seen in Thunderbird 
> "ctrl-u", display source):
> 
> +++??????????????????????
> User-Agent: Alpine 2.26 (LSU 649 2022-06-02)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6
> ...
> 
>    This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware 
> tools.
> 
> --8323328-1366436988-1678962884=:19264
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
> ??????????????????????++-
> 
> Hum, same thing in the sent folder, prior to passing through all the 
> servers. So, should happen the same in this mail list.

Well, this mail displays correctly in Thunderbird. Go figure.


User-Agent: Alpine 2.26 (LSU 649 2022-06-02)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary="8323328-1847598279-1678965048=:19264"
Content-ID: <7b9c60fa-2aa1-db7f-b490-176148f90ee1@Telcontar.valinor>

X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17

X-Spam-Status: No

   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

--8323328-1847598279-1678965048=:19264
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Content-ID: <157f8e41-e055-13b5-98ac-b8e1ad993fab@Telcontar.valinor>




Both use:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT

I don't know why one displays incorrectly and not the other. Maybe 
different computers, different terminals? I don't think so.


-- 
Cheers / Saludos,

		Carlos E. R.
		(from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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From jason-alpine-info at shalott.net  Sat Mar 18 17:52:03 2023
From: jason-alpine-info at shalott.net (jason-alpine-info@shalott.net)
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:17:32 2024
Subject: [Alpine-info] reply from "To:" Address iff recognized
In-Reply-To: <b323d126-3880-f894-baeb-211bd33bbe29@aitchison.me.uk>
References: <2929b286-fd78-7734-810c-2a36de5738da@eckner.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303170600150.27268@waffle.shalott.net>
	<b323d126-3880-f894-baeb-211bd33bbe29@aitchison.me.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.23.453.2303181727010.27268@waffle.shalott.net>


> I note that it isn't working for me for messages from mailing lists, but 
> I will need to see whether it is related to how I use fetchmail as part 
> of my incoming mail flow.

It's not because of your fetchmail, this is expected (unfortunately).

In the case of a mailing list, the "To" field has the mailing list's email 
address, not your email address.  It's delivered to you, but none of the 
To/From headers mentions you ("From" is the sender, and "To" is the list 
address).  So it's expected that this feature wouldn't catch it -- unless 
you add the list address to your Alpine Setup->Config as one of your 
Alternate Addresses.  But note that this would have some other effects, 
which you may or may not want; so it may not be your best option.

The other option you can use is Roles.  You can create a role in 
Setup->Rules->Roles, which gets invoked if certain conditions are met. 
To set the From as the address you have subscribed to a list, you could 
create a new rule, set the sole condition as Participant == list-address 
(this covers the case where the list address is in the To or the Cc), set 
the action as change the From header to your address that's subscribed, 
and then (optionally) tell it to use the role without confirmation for 
replies and forwards.

The advantage of the latter approach is that it gives you much more power 
and fine-grained control -- you can use lots of different conditions to 
invoke the role, and take lots of different actions in response.  The 
disadvantage is that you have to create each rule explicitly, in advance. 
For email lists, that you subscribe to one-at-a-time, this is probably a 
reasonable trade-off.

The advantages of the former approach are that it is simpler; you can use 
wildcards/catch-alls, so a single rule can match many addresses; and most 
of all, it conveys the actual semantics of the situation to Alpine -- 
i.e., if I own jason.com, and I have routed all inbound mail for 
@jason.com into my inbox, then I can use these config settings to 
basically let pine "understand" that ${ANYTHING}@jason.com _IS_ me, and 
then stuff like replies, index behaviour, etc, all work the way that you 
would naively expect and want.


  -Jason