[Tweeters] Re: How many are wrong

Brett Wolfe m_lincolnii at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 19 13:48:39 PDT 2007


I want to second Patricia's comments. Outside of the ocassional cat posting or someone getting their panties in a bunch over the use of 4-letter codes, I love tweeters. I only read about 15-20% of all postings (whatever I feel is relevant to my interests), and my requests for information have always received good results. Stick with it Marian, because birding is fun and most of tweeters people are good folks (and for the record, I saw a Green Heron in your pictures too, but figured you had enough responses  =)  ).
   
  Brett A. Wolfe
  Seattle, WA
  m_lincolnii at yahoo.com 

patriciacsmith at comcast.net wrote:
  As one of the tweeters who is a complete amateur begging for help, I know what you mean, Marion. People can be snarky.
But I want to stand up for tweeters! Overall I have received so much generous help and information from my occasional postings, for me the good guys far outweigh the jerks. (Though I understand your ratio has not been so felicitous. ) 
I hope your rant will stimulate more good guy response to your postings! This is such a wonderful resource.
Patricia

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> 1. Sandhill Cranes, Sequim (Clovis Ache)
> 2. How many are wrong? (Marian Murdoch)
> 3. Guanajuato, Mexico birding info? (squeakyfiddle at aol.com)
> 4. Grays Harbor Audubon field trip to Ocean Shores today
> (Tim O'Brien)
> 5. WOS Conference Shorebirds (Kathy Andrich)
> 6. RFI: Costa Rica in July (Rachel)
> 7. Re: WOS Conference Shorebirds (Eugene and Nancy Hunn)
> 8. Three-toed Woodpeckers in N. Cascades on 8/18/07 and 9/14/07
> (Daoud Miller)
> 9. Entiat Ridge (Bud E-mail)
> 10. Re: Scrub Jay at Ocean Shores (Hill)
> 11. Battle Ground Night Flight (Jim Danzenbaker)
> 12. Fir Tree Bird Bath (Penny Koyama)
> 13. Raven calls (Dawn Bailey)
> 14. Sunny 9/18 between Westport and Tokeland (Rebecca Laszlo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:17:03 +0000
> From: Clovis Ache 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Sandhill Cranes, Sequim
> To: "tweeters at u.washington.edu" 
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> Hi Tweets,
> There were 2 Sandhill Cranes in the field east of Kitchen-Dick Rd and south of 
> Old Olympic Hwy, today Sept 18, at 11:40am. 
> 
> Paulette
> in Sequim, WA 
> clovisache at hotmail dot com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:37:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Marian Murdoch 
> Subject: [Tweeters] How many are wrong?
> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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> I've been a member of Tweeters for a while now and am
> finding myself just deleting the digest when it
> arrives instead of opening it. Why? Because of the
> amazing disparity of respect towards some members. I
> constantly try to document my sightings with pictures,
> so that I can know if I am wrong or not with my ID. So
> if I say this is a "pigeon-tailed nutcrusher" people
> can look at the photo and say, "no...it's such and
> such". However, there are plenty of members who report
> the same sighting, without pictures, and their word is
> taken as gospel. 
> 
> How many of those sightings are wrong? Do they get the
> "why don't you look in a field guide before posting"
> emails that I get? Do they get the four word "it's a
> green heron" emails I get when I post a photo with an
> incorrect ID? Sure, those people probably don't mean
> any harm by their emails, but emails like that are
> hardly educational. Granted, there are a few members
> who really are helpful and explain WHY my sighting is
> incorrect, but those are few and far between. What's
> the reason for my ranting here? Because I would hate
> to think that other members are feeling as I
> do...hesitant to post for fear of being wrong. But
> isn't that part of learning? Part of birdwatching? The
> discovery of new ideas, the constant education? And if
> someone IS afraid of posting, we may miss that rare
> bird that he/she DID see. I would rather help someone
> learn that a green heron can have a light colored
> bill, than to miss the possibility of seeing a least
> bittern just 5 miles from my home. Remember, NONE of
> us were born with a field guide in our head. I'd love
> to see more compassion, fewer knee-jerk response style
> emails. After all, this is supposed to be fun, right?
> Right?? 
> 
> Marian Murdoch
> Belfair, WA
> marianmurdoch at yahoo.com
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:32:08 -0400
> From: squeakyfiddle at aol.com
> Subject: [Tweeters] Guanajuato, Mexico birding info?
> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> Message-ID: <8C9C86BA5ACEA91-CA0-7326 at webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>
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> Has anyone any info about birding in/around Guanajuato, Mexico? 
> 
> Off-list replies are fine.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Catherine Alexander
> Lakewood neighborhood
> South Seattle
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:21:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Tim O'Brien" 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Grays Harbor Audubon field trip to Ocean Shores
> today
> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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> Today, I led a Grays Harbor Audubon field trip to Ocean Shores today. Our group 
> of 10 observers encountered a few highlights and one amazing weather phenomenom 
> today. We started the day by meeting at the Ocean Shores Convention Center at 
> 7:45am and to our surprise we noticed a funnel cloud or possible water sput 
> coming for a very dark cloud to the south over the ocean waters. I snapped a 
> few photos of this funnel cloud and it soon dissipated with another small one 
> forming and then disappearing quickly. The funnel cloud was a lifer for me! 
> Luckily, no one was affected by this cloud. 
> 
> Now to the birds...we covered Bill's Spit, the marina, the base of Damon 
> Point, the STP, and a small portion of the game range. Here's the highlights:
> 
> Game range: 1 Pectoral Sandpiper, 1 Sanderling, 1 Dowitcher spp., 3 Whimbrel 
> and 1 Pacific Golden-plover
> Bill's Spit: 5 Black-bellied Plovers and about 40 Marbled Godwit (they flushed 
> as we tried to get close)
> Damon Point: 1 Merlin, 1 Spotted Sandpiper and 2 Black Turnstones on the rocks 
> on the channel side, also one male Harlequin Duck, a Marbled Murrelet, and one 
> Clark's Grebe
> 
> Also, we same one Blue-winged Teal in a small pond opposite the Lake Minard 
> water tank. On the way home, a stop at the Hoquiam STP pond yielded an Eared 
> Grebe. 
> 
> It was a good trip!
> 
> Tim O'Brien
> Elma, WA
> mailto: kertim7179 at yahoo.com
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kathy Andrich 
> Subject: [Tweeters] WOS Conference Shorebirds
> To: tweet 
> Message-ID: <238881.31924.qm at web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Hi Tweeters,
> 
> I saw an amazing total of 30 shorebird species at the
> WOS conference, location of notable/rare birds and a
> few footnotes:
> 
> Black-bellied Plover
> American Golden Plover (Ocean Shores Game Range,
> Tonquin entrance)
> Pacific Golden Plover (Game Range, Bottle Beach)
> Snowy Plover (Midway Beach)
> Semipalmated Plover
> Killdeer
> Black Oystercatcher (Pt Grenville)
> Greater Yellowlegs
> Lesser Yellowlegs (John's River Wildlife Area)
> Willet
> Wandering Tattler (Brown's Point Jetty, Westhaven 
> Jetty, Pt. Grenville)
> Spotted Sandpiper
> Whimbrel
> Long-billed Curlew
> Bar-tailed Godwit (Bottle Beach) (1)
> Marbled Godwit
> Ruddy Turnstone
> Black Turnstone
> Red Knot (Bottle Beach)
> Sanderling
> Western Sandpiper
> Least Sandpiper
> Baird's Sandpiper (Game Range-Tonquin, Midway Beach)
> Pectoral Sandpiper (Midway Beach)
> Dunlin
> Buff-breasted Sandpiper (Game Range-Tonquin,
> Midway Beach)
> Ruff (Game Range) (2)
> Short-billed Dowitcher
> Long-billed Dowitcher
> Wilson's Snipe (Ocean Shores Game Range)
> 
> 
> <><><><><><><><>
> 
> (1) I saw the Bar-tailed Godwit at the receding high
> tide last night. It was also seen by many at the end
> of Westport Spit which is to the right of Float 21 at
> Westport-I don't think Westport faces due west so
> unsure of the compass direction. You have to drive
> around the other side of the Coast Gaurd Facility and
> hike out.
> 
> (2) Patrick Sullivan also saw a Ruff fly away from
> the small stream wetland area on the way into Bottle
> Beach on the Sunday trip that I went on.
> 
> It was a great conference. The mammal highlight for
> two Pt. Grenville trips was beach bears. The Friday
> trip saw 3 Black Bears on the beach below the point
> and the Saturday trip, which I was on, saw one. Also
> Black Bear footprints were noted at Midway Beach
> yesterday.
> 
> Kathy
> Roosting in S. King County
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:08:32 -0700
> From: "Rachel" 
> Subject: [Tweeters] RFI: Costa Rica in July
> To: 
> Message-ID: <001e01c7fa72$bee6f010$4400a8c0 at Rachel>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I am considering signing up for a birding trip to Costa Rica for next
> July. Most tour groups go to Costa Rica in February and March, but this
> trip originally was designed for school teachers who have summers off.
> Migrants from North America will be absent at that season, but I'm not
> sure what other trade-offs there are. Does anyone have opinions about
> the advantages and disadvantages of going to Costa Rica in July?
> 
> Please reply off-list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rachel Lawson
> Seattle
> RachelWL at msn.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:25:57 -0700
> From: "Eugene and Nancy Hunn" 
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] WOS Conference Shorebirds
> To: "Kathy Andrich" , "tweet"
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> Kathy,
> 
> We also saw Red-necked Phalaropes on the boat trip.
> 
> Gene Hunn.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kathy Andrich" 
> To: "tweet" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:16 PM
> Subject: [Tweeters] WOS Conference Shorebirds
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi Tweeters,
> >
> > I saw an amazing total of 30 shorebird species at the
> > WOS conference, location of notable/rare birds and a
> > few footnotes:
> >
> > Black-bellied Plover
> > American Golden Plover (Ocean Shores Game Range,
> > Tonquin entrance)
> > Pacific Golden Plover (Game Range, Bottle Beach)
> > Snowy Plover (Midway Beach)
> > Semipalmated Plover
> > Killdeer
> > Black Oystercatcher (Pt Grenville)
> > Greater Yellowlegs
> > Lesser Yellowlegs (John's River Wildlife Area)
> > Willet
> > Wandering Tattler (Brown's Point Jetty, Westhaven
> > Jetty, Pt. Grenville)
> > Spotted Sandpiper
> > Whimbrel
> > Long-billed Curlew
> > Bar-tailed Godwit (Bottle Beach) (1)
> > Marbled Godwit
> > Ruddy Turnstone
> > Black Turnstone
> > Red Knot (Bottle Beach)
> > Sanderling
> > Western Sandpiper
> > Least Sandpiper
> > Baird's Sandpiper (Game Range-Tonquin, Midway Beach)
> > Pectoral Sandpiper (Midway Beach)
> > Dunlin
> > Buff-breasted Sandpiper (Game Range-Tonquin,
> > Midway Beach)
> > Ruff (Game Range) (2)
> > Short-billed Dowitcher
> > Long-billed Dowitcher
> > Wilson's Snipe (Ocean Shores Game Range)
> >
> >
> > <><><><><><><><>
> >
> > (1) I saw the Bar-tailed Godwit at the receding high
> > tide last night. It was also seen by many at the end
> > of Westport Spit which is to the right of Float 21 at
> > Westport-I don't think Westport faces due west so
> > unsure of the compass direction. You have to drive
> > around the other side of the Coast Gaurd Facility and
> > hike out.
> >
> > (2) Patrick Sullivan also saw a Ruff fly away from
> > the small stream wetland area on the way into Bottle
> > Beach on the Sunday trip that I went on.
> >
> > It was a great conference. The mammal highlight for
> > two Pt. Grenville trips was beach bears. The Friday
> > trip saw 3 Black Bears on the beach below the point
> > and the Saturday trip, which I was on, saw one. Also
> > Black Bear footprints were noted at Midway Beach
> > yesterday.
> >
> > Kathy
> > Roosting in S. King County
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:45:05 -0700
> From: Daoud Miller 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Three-toed Woodpeckers in N. Cascades on 8/18/07
> and 9/14/07
> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> Message-ID: <2b299eb183f64c3b56d64c6507258711 at comcast.net>
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> My wife and I observed Three-toed Woodpeckers in the same place on both 
> Aug. 18 and Sept. 14: Thunder Knob Trail out of the north Colonial 
> Creek Campground on Hwy. 20 in the N. Cascades Nat'l Recreation Area, 
> near the top/end of the trail as it first plateaus out, just before the 
> small tarn (now nearly dry), a short ways before trail's end at the top 
> of Thunder Knob.
> 
> On Aug. 18, there were 2-3 different males: the first before the 
> little lake and the second at the lake had distinctly different head 
> markings. Two more birds were sighted after the lake, but not clearly 
> enough to positively distinguish them from the earlier 2 birds.
> 
> On Sept. 14, the one sighted male was in the same location as the first 
> bird seen on Aug. 18. At the little lake, we then observed a 
> Red-breasted/Red-naped hybrid Sapsucker.
> 
> Later that morning, off the trail and down in the south campground 
> entry parking lot, I again watched for awhile another 
> Red-breasted/Red-naped hybrid. With the Pileated and the N. Flicker in 
> the campground, we were happy to have had a 4-woodpecker day!
> 
> Daoud Miller
> Seattle, WA
> Daoud_Miller at comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:25:47 -0700
> From: "Bud E-mail" 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Entiat Ridge
> To: "Tweeters" 
> Message-ID: <00ea01c7fa7d$89885de0$56887118 at MADENS>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi Tweeters,
> My apologies but I will not be able to lead a field trip up to the ridge this 
> fall. Sorry about that but I am a bit busy right now.
> However, for all of you hawksters, if you haven't seen our new website at 
> www.frg.org, you might want to check it out. 
> The Entiat team is now providing daily reports to Sue Hindman who, in turn, is 
> posting them on our Entiat blog. I think that this daily posting from an active 
> hawk banding station is a first unless I am mistaken. 
> Most days have a nice picture or two of a hawk banded that day. Last week 
> they caught our third Golden Eagle in over 6 years of banding there. They also 
> just passed the 200 mark. 
> Really good group of people working hard at what they love.
> 
> Bud Anderson
> Falcon Research Group
> Box 248
> Bow, WA 98232
> (360) 757-1911
> bud at frg.org
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:09:36 -0700
> From: "Hill" 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Scrub Jay at Ocean Shores
> To: "Scott Downes" , 
> Message-ID: <017801c7fa83$a808b070$6400a8c0 at Hill>
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> This morning Ron Friesz and I had one in Aberdeen, two in Hoquiam, one 
> calling on Brady Loop Road, and more toward Centralia.
> 
> Randy Hill
> Othello
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Downes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:44 PM
> Subject: [Tweeters] Palm Warbler and Scrub Jay at Ocean Shores
> 
> 
> Shortly after this a SCRUB JAY
> > came in from the east, perched atop a spruce briefly calling and then flew
> > on to the east towards the jetty. I don't know the current status of Scrub
> > Jay in Ocean Shores but haven't personally seen one west of Aberdeen 
> > myself.
> > Rain hit about 8:30 and left a soggy day. I hope all of the field trips
> > today went well.
> >
> > Scott Downes
> > downess at charter.net
> > Yakima WA
> >
> >
> >
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> > 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:19:44 -0700
> From: "Jim Danzenbaker" 
> Subject: [Tweeters] Battle Ground Night Flight
> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> Message-ID:
> 
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> 
> Tweeters,
> 
> My thrush monitoring has gotten pretty sketchy of late due to lack of sleep
> and being out of town but here's another update on Swainson's Thrush
> migration over my yard in Battle Ground, Clark County, WA.
> 
> This morning between 5:40-6:15, there were about 1-1.5 birds per minute.
> Previous mornings have had similar numbers. There's been a steady flow of

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