[Tweeters] other opinions re: Birding software
wmarkey at clearwire.net
Fri Feb 22 20:40:00 PST 2008
Several years ago, I bought Birder's Diary. I DO NOT like it. It is
to learn and not intuitive (at least, to me).
I am the kind that likes to take classes on the programs I need to
know, such as
Excel and Word. I retain a lot that way. That being said, I think it
is a very
complex and useful tool, but I am not the kind to sit and spend the time
I have ofter thought that if there were classes on this program, I sure would
like to take them. I
Does anyone know of such classes???
Quoting Joel E Haas <haas.joel at mindspring.com>:
> I have used Avisys from Perceptive Systems
> for about 5 years. I love it. It will do what you suggested you wanted
> in your query. And a lot more, yet is transparent and flexible.
> -- Joel E. Haas, MD
> 1182 Big Leaf Way NE
> Redmond, WA 98053
> Haas.Joel at Mindspring.com
> Reginald David wrote:
>> Aloha Matt, Maxine and Tweeters,
>> I use Avisys on a Mac and it works great, if you want to make to
>> make lists for pretty much anywhere in the world you may want to
>> consider Santa Barbara Softwares BirdArea, the data files are
>> importable to Avisys and appear to work flawlessly. I use Windows XP
>> on my Mac using an Intel based Mac and Bootcamp - there are newer
>> programs that may be better, but I have never had a problem with
>> Boootcamp. Aloha
>> Reginald David
>> Rana Productions, Ltd. P. O. Box 1371
>> Kailua, Kona, Hawaii 329-9141 Phone
>> rdavid at ilhawaii.net <mailto:rdavid at ilhawaii.net>
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>> On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:28 PM, mattxyz at earthlink.net
>> <mailto:mattxyz at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Maxine & Tweeters -
>>> I'd be interested in hearing some other opinions online,
>>> personally, since I believe this hasn't been discussed in a while.
>>> Here's my experience [usual caveats, no financial interest, etc]
>>> I've used* Birdbrain* version 5.0 for Mac for years now. It is
>>> good, but I wish there were something else. Birdbrain hasn't been
>>> updated since 1998, and it doesn't yet even run on OSX. I haven't
>>> tried to use their customer support in a long while, but when I did
>>> try a few years ago, I never received a response. Basically, I'd be
>>> happy with Birdbrain if it were being updated. It runs a bit slow
>>> on some of the listing functions, but I bet a revised version could
>>> clean up a lot of that.
>>> There is also a program called* Wings* - has anyone had experience
>>> with this? From what I can see on the web, it looks decent. One
>>> thing that doesn't sound great is that it looks like you have to
>>> 'subscribe' to it, paying an annual fee -- and if you don't pay,
>>> you can't enter more species. That sounds dangerous to me, and I'd
>>> rather buy software free & clear than remain on the hook over the
>>> foreseeable future.
>>> The only PC listing software I have experience with is* Avisys*,
>>> and I've found it to be really excellent. It is regularly upgraded,
>>> the support responses come quickly, and it seems clearly made with
>>> a birder's record-keeping needs in mind. You can easily keep state
>>> & county & other checklists, and running reports on these lists
>>> [life, year, species not seen, etc] is easy and fast. There's a lot
>>> of flexibility and power inside the program, but it is set up so
>>> that it can be used pretty easily at any level, without having to
>>> spend a long time becoming a computer programmer to understand it.
>>> I'm sure there are other downsides, but the biggest one in my mind
>>> is the reliance on a checklist in Clements taxonomic order, an
>>> ordering of species that can take some getting used to if you are
>>> more comfortable with the ABA [US fieldguide] ordering of species.
>>> I imagine it is pretty hard to work around this problem though, if
>>> one wants to present the whole world checklist of birds.
>>> Hope this helps a bit,
>>> Matt Bartels
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>> I know that there has been past discussions on Tweeters about the
>>>> best birding software to easily organize lists etc. I am ready to
>>>> buy a program now and would like to find out what I should get. I
>>>> would like something simple that would allow me to make a life
>>>> list and sub-lists via state or country. I don't think I need lots
>>>> of bells and whistles.
>>>> Please reply to me via email if you don't want to launch a new
>>>> full Tweeters discussion.
>>>> Maxine, Seattle
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