[Tweeters] Re: Yesler Swamp and Montlake Fill eBird distinction

Michael Schrimpf schrimpf at u.washington.edu
Wed Aug 25 19:31:02 PDT 2010

Well, based on what Evan and Connie have said, it seems correct to include
Yesler Swamp as part of "The Fill" when doing surveys for eBird.

Thanks to you both for your insights.


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Evan Houston <evanghouston at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi Michael and Tweeters,


> As one of the most frequent reporters of birds of the Montlake Fill to

> eBird, I'll give a go at answering your question about whether or not to

> include Yesler Swamp with the Montlake Fill in eBird. At the end of this

> message is a link to a nice map will all of the names I refer to.


> I do often visit Yesler Swamp, including the areas called Sidles Swamp,

> Surber Grove, and walking along Surber Drive during my trips to the Fill.

> This area is a bit different from the rest of the Fill in that it is one of

> the largest heavily treed areas you can visit on site, and in particular is

> close to conifers in the adjacent neighborhood, a tree type almost

> completely absent from the rest of the Fill. So you do get a different mix

> of species than the more meadow-y and pond/lake habitat the rest of the Fill

> comprises.


> I sometimes visit almost all of the locations on the map linked below

> during a single visit to the Fill. I enter everything I see/hear under just

> one eBird checklist - the Union Bay Natural Area (Montlake Fill) hotspot.

> Logistically for me, it would be more of a pain to keep track of many

> separate lists while doing a walk at the Fill. Practically speaking, many

> hotspots such as Marymoor and Discovery Parks are much larger than the

> entire Fill and include as many or more habitat types, so I think it would

> not really make a lot of sense to keep these fairly tiny areas at the Fill

> separate. And from a "fun" standpoint, it's more entertaining for me to

> visit all habitat types at the Fill and try to add to my cumulative site

> list, rather than keeping separate lists at each of the microhabitats.


> Here's the map:

> http://constancypress.com/publications/inmynature/fill/


> Good birding,

> Evan Houston

> Seattle, WA







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Michael Schrimpf
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University of Washington
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