[Tweeters] dead Hawk-owl, "cattle country", and sweeping generalities

Doug Osborne dougoz61 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 21:57:12 PST 2016

How's everyone's Washington State Birding Topic going ??

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 22:47, Joel Haas <haas.joel at mindspring.com> wrote:


> Oh well.

> Joel Haas

> Haas.Joel at Mindspring.com

>> On 1/11/2016 9:36 PM, heapbigdoc at netscape.net wrote:

>> Mr Hernandez,


>> I was born in "cattle country". I have lived in "cattle country" nearly all of my life. I have friends and family who farm and ranch.


>> I find your blanket characterization of my culture as "hostile to wildlife" distasteful.


>> - Roy Myers, Electric City, WA


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>> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:22:30 +0000 (UTC)

>> From: Jason Hernandez <jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com>

>> Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Hawk Owl's Demise

>> To: Tweet Ters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

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>> I will second Roger's thoughts. We must remember that wildlife does not exist for us to look at; it exists for itself, and a quite legal act may not be in the wildlife's best interest. It can be something as simple as where I walk: Evergreen Rotary Park is a public place, and walking dogs there is allowed as long as the dogs are leashed. But the wigeons can't tell if a dog is leashed or not. So as I approach the park with my dog, I look to see if the wigeons are on the water or on the lawn. If on the water, I go ahead; but if on the lawn, I go someplace else that will keep my dog and me away from them, because if they take alarm and fly to the water to get away from the dog, I have interrupted their grazing, and made it that much harder for them to balance their energy budget for the day. I gladly accept this slight inconvenience out of respect for the birds' needs.

>> Certainly, if I was anywhere with a local culture actively hostile to wildlife -- which will be pretty much anywhere in cattle country -- I would do my utmost to avoid drawing attention to the presence of wildlife near human habitations.

>> Jason Hernandez

>> Bremerton

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