[Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
THOMAS BENEDICT
benedict.t at comcast.net
Fri Aug 12 12:48:58 PDT 2022
I don't know whether Paine Field is under utilized or not, but I do recall that the community raised quite a fuss when commercial passenger flights were proposed a few years ago. I seem to recall what when it was approved there were limitations. Cargo operations expanded recently when FedEx took over Boeing's DreamLifter operations center which got moved to South Carolina.
I'd be very surprised if any new airports are built in this region in the next 25 years. I know that the forecasts are for increased passenger growth, but I think that climate change will impact people's travel habits and they will travel by air much less than currently.
Tom Benedict
Seahurst, WA
> On 08/12/2022 12:33 PM jimbetz at jimbetz.com wrote:
>
>
> Vicki,
>
> Did anyone ask why this traffic isn't going to Paine Field? That
> airport is certainly under-utilized and since it already exists an
> increase in its traffic would be less impact than building a new
> airport.
>
> Did anyone talk about or ask about "how will the construction be
> funded?"? I'm guessing that hefty amounts of taxpayer money will
> go into this ...
> - Jim
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> > 1. Kent Red-shouldered Hawk (Marv Breece)
> > 2. Marymoor Park (Redmond, King Co.) 2022-08-11 (Michael Hobbs)
> > 3. 08062022 Westport Seabirds Trip Report (bill shelmerdine)
> > 4. More SW semi-euphoria: tracked by the Border Patrol; 3.3
> > inches of rain at Cave Creek Ranch already for August (Ed Newbold)
> > 5. Enumclaw airport update (Vicki)
> > 6. Re: Enumclaw airport update (Beverly Choltco-Devlin)
> > 7. Re: Enumclaw airport update (johanna striar)
> > 8. Re: Enumclaw airport update (Robert O'Brien)
> > 9. Re: Enumclaw airport update (THOMAS BENEDICT)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Marv Breece <marvbreece at q.com>
> > To: Tweeters <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: [Tweeters] Kent Red-shouldered Hawk
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> > This morning I saw the Kent RED-SHOULDERED HAWK from S 204th Street
> > looking south. The bird was flying from one tree to another, at one
> > point perching for several minutes at the SW corner of the horse
> > track.
> >
> > Marv Breece
> > Tukwila, WA
> > marvbreece at q.com
> > Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece
> > Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/
> > Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:51:02 -0700
> > From: Michael Hobbs <birdmarymoor at gmail.com>
> > To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park (Redmond, King Co.) 2022-08-11
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> > Tweets - a fine sunny day with some birds, but not a lot that was
> > unexpected. Still, really good to be out birding.
> >
> > Highlights:
> >
> > - Eurasian Collared-Dove - One at Compost Piles
> > - Cooper's Hawk - Many, many sightings, but we believe it was all one
> > bird
> > - Hairy Woodpecker - Heard three times; 1-2 birds
> > - Peregrine Falcon - One interacting with swallows, seen from Lake
> > Platform
> > - Warbling Vireo - One heard singing from Dog Meadow, after a miss last
> > week. More should be coming through in migration soon
> > - Western Tanager - Two or three across the slough, including a fine
> > looking male
> >
> > Misses included Rock Pigeon, Vaux's Swift, Bushtit, Red-winged Blackbird,
> > and Brown-headed Cowbird.
> >
> > For the day, 59 species.
> >
> > = Michael Hobbs
> > = BirdMarymoor at gmail.com
> > = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 21:44:54 +0000
> > From: bill shelmerdine <georn1 at hotmail.com>
> > To: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: [Tweeters] 08062022 Westport Seabirds Trip Report
> > Message-ID:
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> > Wow, what a trip. Great weather and an impressive bird and mammal
> > show. It would be hard to do the trip justice and still keep this
> > report reasonably short. We had sunny weather all day, starting off
> > with a great sunrise as we left the harbor and great views of
> > Olympic Mountains to the north and Mount Rainier to the east.
> > After checking wind & swell direction, and checking to see where
> > fishing boats were working, skipper Phil Anderson opted for a
> > southerly route to Pacific County and Willipa Canyon. This was the
> > area where the Hake fleet was fishing while shrimpers were working
> > the waters north of Grays Canyon.
> > This route turned out to be a great choice! The trip out was
> > productive with the regular streams of Sooty Shearwater and Common
> > Murres plentiful on the inner shelf. Large flocks of Phalarope
> > (hundreds) were gathered on the water in many locations. For the
> > second week in a row, Red Phalarope significantly outnumbered
> > Red-Necked, most trips it?s the other way around. It was here where
> > our first Cassin?s Auklet was sighted feeding within a large
> > Phalarope flock.
> >
> > When we approached the deeper shelf towards Willipa Canyon, we could
> > see this was going to be a good day. For those counting and
> > recording numbers it would be a challenge. Seeing the Hake Fleet
> > fishing in the distance we began to encounter great number of birds
> > and a nice mix of species. Scanning in every direction, were large
> > groups of California Gulls and Shearwaters, and many Fork-tailed
> > Storm Petrels. Splashes in the distance indicated several schools/
> > pods of dolphins working the area. There was lot?s of food in the
> > water and the feeding activity was impressive. It was here were we
> > had our first really good looks at Pink-footed Shearwaters, Cassin?s
> > Auklet, and Fork-tailed Storm Petrels, many young of the year in
> > pristine juvenile plumage.
> >
> > Then there was all of the activity around the Hake boats. As is
> > often the case this had the effect of concentrating a large number
> > of species dominated by California Gulls and Sooty Shearwaters. It
> > was here that we picked up our first Black-footed Albatross of the
> > day. Northern Fulmar were plentiful and our first of Short-tailed
> > Shearwaters of the day were seen here at close range, often coming
> > right up to the boat. With all the activity there must be
> > Jaegers/Skua. They did not disappoint us. We were treated to great
> > looks and both adult and Sub-adult Long-tailed and Pomarine Jaegers;
> > South Polar Skua, and an acrobatic Parasitic Jaeger giving chase to
> > gulls. Within a span of 15 or 20 minutes we had the coveted Skua
> > Slam with all members of the North Pacific Jaeger/ Skua clan working
> > the area.
> >
> > It was difficult to leave all this action, but deeper waters and the
> > potential for a few different species called. The trip to Willipa
> > Canyon and Deep Chum stop off the edge of the shelf was productive.
> > Often with so much activity at the boats, this area can be fairly
> > devoid of birds having all been drawn to the fishing activity. Not
> > so today. We added to our numbers and picked up a few new species
> > for the day. An Arctic Tern came in close, but briefly and was seen
> > well only by those on the bow. Our first Leach?s Storm-Petrel
> > appeared and then disappeared in the distance (to be seen well later
> > at the chum stop). The big surprise was a quick flyby Alcid showing
> > the characteristics of an alternate plumage Parakeet Auklet. Sadly,
> > the bird was seen by only a couple of lucky individuals on the bow
> > and was not photographed. An exceptional sighting for the season.
> > It is interesting to note that winter and spring trips recorded
> > numbers of this species this year, while a br!
> > eeding plumage individual has been summering along the San
> > Fransisco Coastline (for the second year in a row).
> > As we approached our deep chum stop, there were few if any birds in
> > sight. There was however, a nice light breeze, good conditions for
> > chumming. Starting out quiet, after a time activity built to a
> > great stop. Really good looks at Black-footed Albatross on the
> > water close; Sabines Gull and a sub-adult Long-tailed Jaeger made
> > several close passes around the boat while a couple of Leach?s and
> > fork-tailed Storm-Petrel worked the chum slick coming in close at
> > times. Our first Buller?s Shearwater of the year was picked out by
> > Spotter Cara Borre, a striking bird making a single close pass and
> > moving on. 11 species visited the slick or passed through with
> > great looks and many photo opportunities for many. Blue Shark and
> > Mola Mola also made appearances with one Mola Mola leaping clear of
> > the water at one point, a feat that seems most improbable for this
> > curious looking species.
> >
> > The return trip continued with plenty of action. Dolphins and
> > Tufted Puffin were highlights. The outer shelf held large numbers
> > of Pacific White-sided, with some very accommodating bow-riders.
> > Shortly they were joined by Northern Right-Whale Dolphins. Never
> > expected and always appreciated; at least five individuals chose to
> > ride the bow wake and stay close to the boat for quite some time.
> > Always a treat, they were seen well by all on board. As we departed
> > the area numbers dropped off but we still had scattered numbers
> > throughout the trip home, there was always something to look at,
> > including probably our best looks at Humpback Whale. A bit more of
> > just about everything and our first of three Tufted Puffin for the
> > day.
> > Inshore, the area around harbor entrance and the south jetty were
> > nothing short of remarkable (and very difficult to count accurately
> > as the numbers and species mix had us trying to look in every
> > direction at once). I?m sure we undercounted here. Very large
> > numbers of Common Murre and Rhinoceros Auklets were impressive,
> > among them a breeding plumage Tufted Puffin, unusual this close to
> > shore and a third for the trip, a great total for the day.
> > All and all a great trip with a great group of folks. About half of
> > the participants were Washingtonians joined by others from Oregon,
> > New Mexico, Texas and Florida. Spotters for the trip were Bill
> > Tweit, Bill Shelmerdine, and Cara Borre. Boat Crew included Skipper
> > Phil Anderson and Ken Luce. Trip totals and final numbers will be
> > posted to ebird and the Westport Seabirds webpage.
> > Bill Shelmerdine
> > Westport Seabirds
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 04:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Ed Newbold <ednewbold1 at yahoo.com>
> > To: Tweeters Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: [Tweeters] More SW semi-euphoria: tracked by the Border
> > Patrol; 3.3 inches of rain at Cave Creek Ranch already for August
> > Message-ID: <1341432300.514429.1660278324059 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> > Hi all,
> > The monsoon still seems perhaps even better than a normal one in the
> > US Southwest, a piece of news that doesn't fit the pattern of bad
> > news lately. (Many Northwest birds are known to leave the Northwest
> > early and head to the SW and NW Mexico in hopes of rain there.)
> > Delia and I are back. We ducked lightning bolts and got at least
> > some rain every day, we got tracked by Border Patrol agents, we
> > hosted Turtle researchers and Bat researchers,? saw our first Bats
> > at close range, ducked off a trail for a Bear family, trekked 9
> > miles in 95 degree heat, and picked up a few lifers while bursting
> > into E-birds top-1000 for Arizona.? Seattle seems boring by
> > comparison.
> > Here's the blog and the movie, which is just me ranting:
> >
> > Ed Newbold | ?Make sure you pet the cubs so the mother knows you are
> > friendly?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks all,
> > Ed Newbold? Beacon Hill, Seattle? ednewbold1 at yahoo.com
> >
> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 06:20:38 -0700
> > From: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>
> > To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> > Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker discussed
> > too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
> > But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes over
> > part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
> > Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
> > out, it would be terribly affected by this.
> > This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
> > giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
> > Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
> > This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
> > scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
> > of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
> > Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
> > There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
> > Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
> > at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
> > of the conversation.
> > Vicki Biltz
> > Buckley, WA 98321
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > vickibiltz at gmail.com
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 06:46:58 -0700
> > From: Beverly Choltco-Devlin <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com>
> > To: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
> > Message-ID:
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> > Thank you for this information, Vicki.
> >
> > I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
> > close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
> > this area.
> >
> > Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
> > forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
> > of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
> >
> > The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the birds
> > especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh and
> > other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green and
> > White rivers? They've already added an international airport in Everett. I
> > can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no road
> > infrastructure to support this.
> >
> > I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
> >
> > We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
> > Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
> >
> > Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
> >
> > https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
> > https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
> >
> > And from this article:
> > https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
> >
> > "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
> > reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
> > CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
> > affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
> > from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
> > If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
> > Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
> > <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
> > "
> >
> > We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker discussed
> >> too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
> >> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes over
> >> part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
> >> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
> >> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
> >> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
> >> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
> >> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
> >> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
> >> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
> >> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
> >> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
> >> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
> >> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
> >> at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
> >> of the conversation.
> >> Vicki Biltz
> >> Buckley, WA 98321
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> vickibiltz at gmail.com
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
> >>
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:10:36 -0700
> > From: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>
> > To: Beverly Choltco-Devlin <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
> > Message-ID:
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> > I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I recommend those
> > who are more in the know get organized and send us links so we can voice
> > our concerns.
> >
> > thank
> > Johanna Striar
> > regular El Wha visitor
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin <
> > bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you for this information, Vicki.
> >>
> >> I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
> >> close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
> >> this area.
> >>
> >> Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
> >> forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
> >> of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
> >>
> >> The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the birds
> >> especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh and
> >> other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green and
> >> White rivers? They've already added an international airport in Everett. I
> >> can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no road
> >> infrastructure to support this.
> >>
> >> I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
> >>
> >> We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
> >> Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
> >>
> >> Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
> >> https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
> >>
> >> And from this article:
> >> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
> >>
> >> "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
> >> reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
> >> CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
> >> affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
> >> from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
> >> If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
> >> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
> >> <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
> >> "
> >>
> >> We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
> >>
> >> Beverly
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker
> >>> discussed too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
> >>> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes
> >>> over part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
> >>> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
> >>> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
> >>> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
> >>> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
> >>> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
> >>> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
> >>> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
> >>> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
> >>> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
> >>> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
> >>> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
> >>> at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
> >>> of the conversation.
> >>> Vicki Biltz
> >>> Buckley, WA 98321
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> vickibiltz at gmail.com
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:26:46 -0700
> > From: "Robert O'Brien" <baro at pdx.edu>
> > To: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> > Being from Portland, I have no direct involvement. But a major issue
> > (which I don't believe has been mentioned) is the airspace around the
> > airport. Airplane/Bird collisions are a major issue. Especially
> > waterfowl, especially geese. I don't know the extent that this area is
> > near flying waterfowl. But they have to be kept away from flight paths
> > landing and taking off. This might be a safety issue.
> > Bob OBrien Portland
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 8:11 AM johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I recommend those
> >> who are more in the know get organized and send us links so we can voice
> >> our concerns.
> >>
> >> thank
> >> Johanna Striar
> >> regular El Wha visitor
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin <
> >> bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you for this information, Vicki.
> >>>
> >>> I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
> >>> close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
> >>> this area.
> >>>
> >>> Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
> >>> forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
> >>> of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
> >>>
> >>> The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the
> >>> birds especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh
> >>> and other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green
> >>> and White rivers? They've already added an international airport in
> >>> Everett. I can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no
> >>> road infrastructure to support this.
> >>>
> >>> I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
> >>>
> >>> We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
> >>> Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
> >>>
> >>> Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
> >>> https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
> >>>
> >>> And from this article:
> >>> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
> >>>
> >>> "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
> >>> reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
> >>> CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
> >>> affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
> >>> from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
> >>> If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
> >>> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
> >>> <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
> >>> "
> >>>
> >>> We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
> >>>
> >>> Beverly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker
> >>>> discussed too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
> >>>> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes
> >>>> over part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
> >>>> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
> >>>> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
> >>>> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
> >>>> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
> >>>> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
> >>>> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
> >>>> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
> >>>> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs
> >>>> protection.
> >>>> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
> >>>> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
> >>>> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually
> >>>> shared at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the
> >>>> majority of the conversation.
> >>>> Vicki Biltz
> >>>> Buckley, WA 98321
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> vickibiltz at gmail.com
> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
> >>>>
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> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net>
> > To: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>, Beverly Choltco-Devlin
> > <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> >> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl
> >
> > Does the proposal include military aircraft use?
> >
> > Tom Benedict
> > Seahurst, WA
> >
> >> On 08/12/2022 8:10 AM johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I
> >> recommend those who are more in the know get organized and send us
> >> links so we can voice our concerns.
> >>
> >> thank
> >> Johanna Striar
> >> regular El Wha visitor
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin
> >> <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com mailto:bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Thank you for this information, Vicki.
> >> >
> >> > I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly
> >> international airport so close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks
> >> and the beautiful farmlands in this area.
> >> >
> >> > Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant
> >> clear-cutting of forests to put thousands of homes in place with
> >> zero regard for the impact of the natural areas, not to mention the
> >> farmland.
> >> >
> >> > The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species
> >> here and the birds especially who migrate using the many wetlands
> >> including Veazie marsh and other nearby birding locations. What
> >> will be the impact on the Green and White rivers? They've already
> >> added an international airport in Everett. I can't believe they
> >> need another one. Additionally there is no road infrastructure to
> >> support this.
> >> >
> >> > I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
> >> >
> >> > We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this
> >> proposal, the Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
> >> >
> >> > Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
> >> > https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
> >> >
> >> > And from this article:
> >> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
> >> >
> >> > "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching
> >> the matter and reporting back to the council when further
> >> information is received. The CACC is seeking comments from local
> >> citizens who may be potentially affected by its decision. Virtual
> >> public meetings will be held by the CACC from August 23 to August
> >> 31. More information and links will be announced. If you would like
> >> to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
> >> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
> >> https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov
> >> "
> >> >
> >> > We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in
> >> southern King County
> >> >
> >> > Beverly
> >> >
> >> > >
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