[Tweeters] question (Diann MacRae via Tweeters)

[Jane Hadley via Tweeters]

Dear Tweetsters: For a long time, I have been unable to see the content 
in Diann MacRae's Tweeters messages -- unless I click on the URL link at 
the bottom of the message. I get Tweeters via the Digest, so this URL 
may be available only for those who receive Tweeters via the Digest or 
at the UW's Tweeters archives.

When I click on that URL at the bottom of the message

URL:http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/pipermail/tweeters/attachments/20250709/f8f5e391/attachment-0001.html

I am taken to a web page that displays her message, but the message is 
encased in html markup, that is, commands enclosed in angle brackets 
saying how the message should be displayed. (It's not just Diann's 
messages. There are a few other Tweeter contributors whose messages have 
the same issue.) I suspect the problem is the email client that Diann 
(and others who are have the same issue) are using. I think there is 
probably nothing Diann can do other than to use a different device or 
program to send the messages. The Tweeters listserv software is old and 
cannot handle all formats. Some Tweeters subscribers choose to get 
individual Tweeters messages forwarded on to them rather than having a 
digest that packages up all of a day's messages once a day and sends 
them out in a single email. I get the digest, so I cannot say how 
Diann's messages are displayed in the individual emails that are 
forwarded. I wouldn't be surprised if those messages came through just 
fine.

I just now checked The Birding Lists Digest site that shows Tweeters 
messages on a web page  ( http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=one_list;id=141 
)  and I find that the content of Diann's message is entirely missing. 
And the URL at the bottom simply links to the Tweeters information page, 
not to the content of the message.

So the solution to this issue depends on how you get your Tweeters messages.

If you get them via the Digest, click on the URL at the bottom of the 
message.

If you get individually forwarded emails, I am guessing you don't have a 
problem, unless you have an email program that is limited in formats it 
can handle (unlikely in this day and age). But I could be wrong about 
this, don't know.

Finally, if you read your Tweeters messages via the Birders List Digest, 
then I think you're out of luck there. You will not be able to read the 
message. But you can go to the UW Tweeters archives and find the 
message  to get the URL at the bottom of the message and read the 
content (encased in html markup). Here is the link for that: 
https://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/tweeters/

Regarding the sending side of this question, I believe that the best way 
to get messages you send to Tweeters to display perfectly is to send 
them to the extent possible in plain text. Avoid bold, italic, smart 
quotes, and angle brackets. It's easy enough to do most of these things, 
but to get rid of smart quotes, you have to either not use quotes at all 
or compose your message in a plain text editor rather than in something 
like Word. (A plain text quote is one where the quotes go straight up 
and down and there's no difference between the opening and closing 
quotes. Smart or curly quotes slant or curl one way for opening quotes 
and a different way for closing quotes.)

Jane Hadley

Seattle, WA

hadleyj1725 at gmail.com



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