[Alpine-info] Seeking someone who..?

[Karen Lewellen]

Simply offering a personal opinion here.
One concern I have reading both the question and the answer is the 
assumption that  there is a uniformed applies to everyone sharing a label 
like blind people  problem.
Typing a complex password is a challenge in general, with finding a 
solution   that benefits everyone equally helpful.
I am far more concerned that google could uniformly remove display 
choices, taking away basic html which helps many populations as well, 
including those who may experience sight loss.
Indeed technology can provide options.  but speaking personally, many who 
lead with generalized terms like blind people have also limited the 
options those sharing that label can use.
If you are not, cannot, or choose not to define your technology approaches 
from   a term I have read from others, a blind elite standpoint, you are 
not a good blind person.
the simple ability to cut and copy the password somewhere else, and place 
that password in the required field would solve the problem.
Of course many lack the keyboard skills, or the lower graphics environment 
that made that possible, or any number of things.
my understanding too is the password simply needs doing once.
choose a master password easy to remember.
Mercy I use the birthday of a person I respect for mine often.
You would be surprised how many people just use a variation on the word 
master password.
Still, my point is assuming a generalized problem rooted in a, again 
speaking personally, nonexistent uniformed experience serves no one.
Kare



On Thu, 30 Nov 2023, Carlos E. R. wrote:


> On 2023-11-29 21:15, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

>>  Would you please make this something that a user could opt out of when

>>  configuring alpine from the tar ball?

>

> I'm not a developer, so sorry, I can't.

>

>

>>  Many blind users love alpine but with the change with the master password

>>  it completely overwhelms them.

>

> Can't they type a simple word, say "john" or a number, like their own phone 

> number (thus easy to remember)? :-?

>

> I suppose it doesn't accept an empty string.

>

> Sorry, I don't know what is the difficulty for them to type a password. The 

> risk of password theft (and identity replacement) is the same for everybody, 

> a real risk.

>

> The problem is that they mistype letters, perhaps, and don't notice?

>

> Then maybe a string like "11111", the first key in the keyboard, repeated a 

> number of times. Or "123456" if it doesn't accept it.

>

>

> The solution would be a different technology. Fingerprint reader, perhaps. 

> :-?

>

> -- 

> Cheers / Saludos,

>

> 		Carlos E. R.

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