[Alpine-info] ALPINE: [O365] Email Setup: Seems to be difficult

[Carlos E. R.]

On 2024-03-26 21:06, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

> 

> Brian,

> 

> We share your frustration.

> 

> Sadly Google and Microsoft do not really wish to provide an IMAP service

> - I don't think that Microsoft even provide an IMAP client for Windows 

> any more.

> 

> Documenting how to set up either of the Microsoft mail services* is a

> tedious and substantial piece of trial and error and our experience is

> that it changes more frequently than we would like to repeat it.

> Plus any existing settings - probably including some stored in the

> web-browser - are likely to make the result different from a truly fresh

> setup.

> 

> * Microsoft have two mail service with barely distinguishable names,

> but if you ask their support for help for the wrong one there will

> send you to the other one ...

> 

> Alpine follows the OAUTH2/XOAUTH2/OAUTHBEARER standards,

> but they don't cover the whole process of getting and using tokens

> to use Microsoft or Google (mail) services.

> 

> As a user, I avoid it by getting Gmail to forward my messages to

> a sane email service and collect it from there.

> 

> Oh, IMAP is not insecure, but MS & G want you to use the same

> authentication for all their services, ideally through a web-browser

> and having two systems does present a bigger target,

> especially if one is only used by a small number of people.

> Given the effort they put into IMAP, they are probably correct

> that using IMAP *to connect to their mail services* is less safe

> than using their preferred connections.

> 

> I am sorry that I cannot give you more optimistic news.


With gmail there is another method which is what I do: set up an 
application password. Using that, it is plain imap, login and password 
for Alpine.

         "imap Ggl" {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=... at gmail.com}INBOX,


-- 
Cheers / Saludos,

		Carlos E. R.
		(from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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