[Alpine-info] O365 XOAUTH2 via fetchmail

[Carlos E. R.]

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On Thursday, 2022-04-28 at 23:22 +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Steve Litt wrote:

>

>>  I would agree with the preceding except for one thing: All email clients

>>  suck, and you never know when you're going to have to change email

>>  clients.

>

> "not all but most of them" (this is a pun in Italian "tutti no ma buona 

> parte", attributed as a reply of cardinal Caprara to Napoleon, when the 

> latter asked whether all Italians are thieves. "ma buona parte" sounds the 

> same as "ma Buonaparte" ... and Napoleon was born in Corsica when this was 

> under Genua, and he had stolen a lot of masterpieces).



:-)



> I had to change my email client only once, long ago, from IBM Rice Mailer to 

> Alpine (from pre-Internet to SMTP) and was satisfied with both (unlike past 

> and present alternatives). I see no reason to change unless the way mail is 

> *delivered* changes.


Netscape on Win 95 to Alpine on Linux and Netscape. Plus Exchange on a 
corporate account, Outlook on another...

...


>>  :-)  Now what's not to like about DKIM, DMARC, OATH2, and all that other

>>  stuff designed to make email inconvenient so people will switch to

>>  facebook?

>

> Not in my name :-(  (or No pasaran!)

>

> If the institute Gsuite (which is currently my main e-mail feed, via ssh from 

> home) moves to OATH2 forbidding fetchmail AND imap, I'll guess I'd move at 

> least my private mail to some other provider, and forward the official one to 

> it.


Forwarding can also have interesting mishaps ;-)

Like the final destination thinking that the forwarded mail is spam and 
bouncing it, and you getting the reports from the bounces.


>

> I would also not be displeased with running my own SMTP/MX at home, if I'd 

> understand how to get a static IP instead of a CGNAT DHCP to get a domain of 

> my own.


No, no way with CGNAT, unless getting an IPv6 address instead. Or with a 
tunnel.


>

>>  I like having my 20+ years of emails not depending on which email client I

>>  happen to use.

>

> I have stuff since 2003 online (locally) in mbox folders, from 1993 on CDs in 

> mbox, and earlier in IBM 'NOTEBOOOK' format (also plain text ... converted 

> from EBCDIC to ASCII long ago :-)

>

>>>  I hope imap lives forever.

>>  Me too.

>

> +1, and alpine too

>

>


- -- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
        (from openSUSE 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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