[Alpine-info] Seeking someone who..?

D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea at arrl.net
Mon Nov 27 04:29:32 PST 2023


Could how to configure oauth2 be added to the README file of alpine
current?

Regards,

David

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 1:33 AM Eduardo Chappa <alpine.chappa at yandex.com>
wrote:


> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

>

> > To work, application specific passwords are necessary for both mutt and

> > alpine, Carlos E.R. explains how to get these, however mutt has the

> > ability to use oauth credentials which alpine doesn't seem to have yet.

> > Many people have gone over to mutt for this reason.

>

> oauth is deprecated, because it is insecure and Alpine never supported it.

> Alpine supports oauth2, which is widely deployed. You can login to Gmail,

> Outlook, Yahoo!, and Yandex using Alpine.

>

> Google requires users of mutt and alpine to get their own client-id and

> client-secret, so we are in equal footing there.

>

> For outlook, Alpine uses a universal client-id and client-secret for the

> device method, and users choose to use Thunderbird's client-id and

> client-secret for the authorize method. Mutt users also seem to be using

> Thunderbird's id and secret. No difference there.

>

> For Yahoo!, alpine uses a device-like method, and I do not think mutt

> users can use mutt to read their Yahoo! email, but that might be my

> ignorance.

>

> For Yandex, users can use the given id and secret and do not need to get

> their own. Mutt users probably need to do that.

>

> Alpine has had oauth2 support for years now. Feel free to spread the news

> as you see fit, or do a search in your favorite search engine for "xoauth2

> alpine" to find how to configure it to login to the above named sites.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> --

> Eduardo

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