[Alpine-info] Seeking someone who..?

D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea at arrl.net
Wed Nov 29 09:54:52 PST 2023


I found the information, there's a new website unknown to me.
https://alpineapp.email/

Maybe put that URL in the README file. I am using an old version to avoid
the alpine password requirements. I suggest an override when compiling to
avoid it's use, some of us just use alpine in our homes, no hackers have
access to any files. --no-passwords perhaps?

Thanks, EC.

Best wishes,
DR

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:29 AM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:


> Could how to configure oauth2 be added to the README file of alpine

> current?

>

> Regards,

>

> David

>

> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 1:33 AM Eduardo Chappa <alpine.chappa at yandex.com>

> wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

>>

>> > To work, application specific passwords are necessary for both mutt and

>> > alpine, Carlos E.R. explains how to get these, however mutt has the

>> > ability to use oauth credentials which alpine doesn't seem to have

>> yet.

>> > Many people have gone over to mutt for this reason.

>>

>> oauth is deprecated, because it is insecure and Alpine never supported

>> it.

>> Alpine supports oauth2, which is widely deployed. You can login to Gmail,

>> Outlook, Yahoo!, and Yandex using Alpine.

>>

>> Google requires users of mutt and alpine to get their own client-id and

>> client-secret, so we are in equal footing there.

>>

>> For outlook, Alpine uses a universal client-id and client-secret for the

>> device method, and users choose to use Thunderbird's client-id and

>> client-secret for the authorize method. Mutt users also seem to be using

>> Thunderbird's id and secret. No difference there.

>>

>> For Yahoo!, alpine uses a device-like method, and I do not think mutt

>> users can use mutt to read their Yahoo! email, but that might be my

>> ignorance.

>>

>> For Yandex, users can use the given id and secret and do not need to get

>> their own. Mutt users probably need to do that.

>>

>> Alpine has had oauth2 support for years now. Feel free to spread the news

>> as you see fit, or do a search in your favorite search engine for

>> "xoauth2

>> alpine" to find how to configure it to login to the above named sites.

>>

>> I hope this helps.

>>

>> --

>> Eduardo

>

>

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